Hello everyone, well I did intend on doing a daily post while in Utah but I did not account for how busy I would be, having a great time meeting many people and visiting the key LDS spots such as temple square, institute classes, provo, amongst others.
I also managed to get tickets for the Saturday am session of general conference, for those that don’t know this is proably one of the most important events in the Mormon calender, it happens twice a year and its when the prophet Thomas Monson, as well as his first counsellors and various other general authorities bring teaching and revelation to the church.
The LDS view about their prophet is that when he speaks what he says is comparible with scripture, if he says something that contradicts past scripture or prophets then the most up to date revelation stands as true.
This at times has led to problems when past prophets have said things that can seem a bit out there. When Mormons have been challenged about these things they say “well that prophet did not say thus said the Lord”. Many LDS state that it is only when thus says the Lord is put before a comment that it is comparible with scripture.
However, one classic sermon from a past LDS president challenged this. Ezra Taft Benson in his sermon, wrote when he was one of the twelve apostles the 14 Fundimentals of following the prophet.
Sixth: The prophet does not have to say “Thus saith the Lord” to give us scripture (http://speeches.byu.edu/reader/reader.php?id=6751)
This was requoted at least twice I believe throughout the sessions on saturday. This shows that this is still current Mormon teaching which opens the door to many problems.
Brigham Young said your own blood must atone for some sins.
“There is not a man or woman, who violates the covenants made with their God, that will not be required to pay the debt. The blood of Christ will never wipe that out, your own blood must atone for it . . . ” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, p. 247; see also, vol. 4, p. 53-54, 219-220).
Brigham Young said you must confess Joseph Smith as a prophet of God in order to be saved.
“…and he that confesseth not that Jesus has come in the flesh and sent Joseph Smith with the fullness of the Gospel to this generation, is not of God, but is Antichrist,” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 9, p. 312).
Brigham Young said his discourses are as good as Scripture.
“I say now, when they [his discourses] are copied and approved by me they are as good Scripture as is couched in this Bible . . . ” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 13, p. 264; see also p. 95).
And most significantly of all.
Brigham Young taught that Adam was God.
“Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner! When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world. He is Michael, the Archangel, the Ancient of Days! about whom holy men have written and spoken — He is our Father, and our God, and the only God with whom we have to do. Every man upon the earth, professing Christians or non professing, must hear it, and will know it sooner or later.” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, p. 50).
These words came from a man who was the prophet, the mouthpiece of God for the Mormon church, and He said these things.
Today Mormons do not believe Adam is God however Brigham Young did, and the words of prophets are scripture. Did God change from being Adam to not? As that is the only way that this teaching from the prophet of God could have been true then but not true today. And if it was not true then, then how can Mormons trust this prophet Brigham Young? And if he can not be trusted how can any prophet since be trusted as all it takes is for someone else further down the line to say that what the past prophet said was wrong and then they are overruled, even if what they taught was not just something relevant for this time but something eternal.
Biblically we see that God does not change. Malachi 3:10 For I [am] the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
The bible shows an unchanging God jealous for His glory, the LDS shows a god that has been a man, that man was possibly adam but they are still taught that God was once a man.
What if another prophet down the line rejects the teaching of God once being a man, the LDS members would have to accept it, this is the difference between following God and following men, God does not change, men most certainly do change.
Thanks for reading and please comment, also for those in the Utah or US area please watch heart of the matter tommorow night (5th October) details at this site www.bornagainmormon.com, and you may hear a very fine british accent.